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Something About SCIENCE of the Ancient GENETICs in the PURANs and VEDAs - Can we
undertsand it with TODAY's Science.

Readers Please: THIS PART OF Email article is just to put light on the Existence
of genetics Science in ancient Puran times. And not to dispute in depths of
Ethics, Mythological or today’s GENICS Science MANIPULATING .

Generally when we start the subject of Genetics every one Mandelian laws. But
Was the Mandel right? Not exactly. That was the partial truth only and today’s
advanced genetic science and Genetic engineering has gone far beyond. But still
we are well back than the facts of science has been described in VEDAs and
PURANas. We need to understand the meaning of those statements and study it with
the modern science and technologies in relation to the genetics medical science.

Though we believe that science has well advanced and today Genetics has advanced
in such a stage that we need to keep control of the using genetic materials and
techniques’. Including Stem cell experiments, Cloning embryos, and
tempering/MANIPULATING genetics. Though west believes that most of the genetics
research work goes to their credit for the such genetics research. BUT that the
true. I have been reading research on this subjects since 1960. and in 1962
during India China war one of the leaked article from COMMUNIST RUSSIA was
saying that a embryo was created with ape female and a Human sperm. And the
experiment was criticised as against nature and was not done in REVERSE stage
(Human Female and Ape sperms) else consequence would have been dangerous.
(HERE fertilisation was created by breaking the SPECIES BARIER of fertilisation)
But Ramayana says JAMBUVAN was born with similar genetics science where Bear
Female and Human sperm genes formed the JAMBUVAN where genetic species barrier
of fertilisation has been over ruled.
Though many a times medical studies do explain Barriers of BBB (Blood Brain
Barriers), SPECIES BARIERS etc. But now a days it has been seen that many
experimental studies shows that many a times such barriers actually do not work
in medical heath problems.
E.g. many types of molecular, viral and genetics materials cross such barriers
and give unexpected results in Clinical and pathological aspects.
Similarly Species barrier has been recognised as no longer working in today’s
genetics science. And it has been experimented since 1960s in Communist Russia.
Today’s experimental results are existing in nature. Science is still looking
for YETI – BIGFOOT. But HUMANZEE is existing as HUMAN and chimpanzee genetic
combination.
LIGER exist as LION and Tigress genetic Combination.
But such a mixed generation are NATURALLY unfertile form. So such a GENETICALLY
TEMPERED next generation exist only after GENITIC MANIPULATIONS only.
Gynaecology has advance using techniques’ Test tube embryo fertilisation and
also with transferring/ implanting embryos to suitable situations. And is not
new and has been used in case of BALDEVA, where a total surrogating was carried
out but we will not go in that details here.

GENETIC GANESHA.

As it has been described in Shiva Purana, Ganesha was creation by Mata PARVATI
from her somatic CELLS of hands in absence of the SHIVA. So may be Ma Parvatiji
have used the Somatic Cloning technique.

Does that look like more of mythological but today’s genetics do not contradict
the fact of the science. Now look in genetic details in form of the Science
Genetics’ facts.

Mother PARVATI has no shivas “Y” chromosome so she wished to create “GANaa” of
her own from Her SOMATIC Cells genetic material only derived from her hands
SOMATIC cells. If so ganesh Can have “XX” and so can not be in the FORM of
“DEVA” GANESHa, but “DEVI” Ganesha.

So is true that THE FIRST Creation was not the “TRIDEVA” BRAHMA , VISHNU and
MAHESHa, but Mother Creation by nature in form of “MATAJI” which exist in form
of only “XX” clone formation by nature and natural process.

Than only MATAJI creates the “TRIDEVA” BRAHMA , VISHNU and MAHESHa as those were
by the process without BIRTH. And clone from “Y” can not Exist as “YY” form of
the Genetics.

But such a creation was against the nature and lacking “Y” Shiva ANSH. And that
was the fact to destroy Such a GANESHa as that form of GANESH unviable and may
not pass the generations to next generations.

So the war between GANESH and SHIVA has been explained and all THREE DEVAS ,
BRAHMA, VISHNU and MAHESHA agreed to destroy such form of Ganesha and then was
replaces with head of the ELEPHENT! A new creation of GANESHa by SHIVA.

HERE we are still far away to understand these part of new creation by SHIVA and
head of Elephant. Does elephant has Human gene “Y” or just a Head Transplant in
limited permitted time scale. And how the GENOME was changed to “Y” of SHIVa
ANSHa was manipulated by SHIVA the great GOD! And that NEW form of GANESHa was
made Viable and to pass on the generations.

During Ramayana times VANAR and BEAR were created by DEVAS, Here a GENETICS
SPECIES Barrier has been manipulated at that time. And HANUMAN was born from
unmarried Mother ANJANI by VAYU DEVA. And grown up by father KESHRI.

As this puts light on the GENETICS SPECIES Barrier and generations. Hanuman
Remained “BRAHMCHARI” and Has no generations BUT out of his Knowing SON was
created by Mother.
MAY that be the creation by Genes derived from Hanumans Perspiration. A drop
of his perspiration fell into the mouth of a great fish (mermaid) which gave
birth to a mighty hero named Makara Dhvaja. Makara Dhvaja is considered the son
of Hanuman. 2. As per another account ASURAPHAT was Hanuman's son with Benyakai,
Pipek's daughter.

VANAR: Means VA NAR: means Like NAR: - Human.

VA : means ALTERNATE, Or/LIKE and NAR: - Human.

The Sanskrit name given with scientifically that VANAR: are like humans. Not
only by appearance but also grouping Rh factors to and so with the scientific
consideration monkeys are named in SANSKRIT as VA NARA: = VANAR.

And why VANAR species used to create SENA ? lets see the some facts of genetics
in terms of SANSKRIT.
For Humans :- Singular NAR: Plural NARA:
FOR Monkeys: -Singular VANAR: Plural VANARA:

And so chances of crossing Species barriers for creation of the genetic
generations are more likely and will not destruct the foetus due to miss
matching Rh factors.

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Plan to create human-cow embryos http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6121280.stm



You may begin to undermine the whole distinction between humans animals and
humans
Why create chimeras?

UK scientists have applied for permission to create embryos by fusing human DNA
with cow eggs. Researchers from Newcastle University and Kings College, London,
have asked the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority for a three-year
licence. The hybrid human-bovine embryos would be used for stem cell research
and would not be allowed to develop for more than a few days. But critics say it
is unethical and potentially dangerous. Liberal Democrat MP Dr Evan Harris - a
member of the Commons Science and Technology Select Committee - said: 'If human
benefit can be derived by perfecting therapeutic cloning techniques or from
research into subsequently-derived stem cells, then it would actually be immoral
to prevent it just because of a 'yuck' factor.' Stem cell research is one of the
most promising areas of medical science. It is this ability which scientists
want to harness to treat diseases such as Parkinson's Disease, strokes and
Alzheimer's Disease. To do that, they need to have access to thousands of
embryos for research.
Short supply
The problem is that human eggs for research are in short supply and to obtain
them women have to undergo surgery. That is why scientists want to use cows'
eggs as a substitute. They would insert human DNA into a cow's egg which has had
its genetic material removed, and then create an embryo by the same technique
that produced Dolly the Sheep. The resulting embryo would be 99.9% human; the
only bovine element would be DNA outside the nucleus of the cell. It would,
though, technically be a chimera - a mixing of two distinct species into one.
The aim would be to extract stem cells from the embryo when it is six days old,
before destroying it.


If human benefit can be derived by perfecting therapeutic cloning techniques or
from research into subsequently-derived stem cells, then it would actually be
immoral to prevent it just because of a 'yuck' factor - Dr Evan Harris
The quality and the viability of stem cells would then be checked to see if the
technique had worked. The scientists also plan to examine the way the cells are
reprogrammed after fusion to see if there are useful processes they could
replicate in the laboratory. Lead researcher Dr Lyle Armstrong said: 'If we can
learn from the egg cell how to make embryonic stem cells without having to use
an animal egg at all then some day we may be able to cure diseases such as
Parkinson's disease, or better still some of the age-related diseases which are
creating such a burden on society.' Dr Stephen Minger, from King's College
London, said: 'The current state of the technology is such that literally
hundreds of human ooctyes (eggs) from young women will be required to generate a
single human embryonic stem cell line. 'Therefore we consider it more
appropriate to use non-human oocytes from livestock as a surrogate. 'We feel
that the development of disease-specific human embryonic stem cell lines from
individuals suffering from genetic forms of neurodegenerative disorders will
stimulate both basic research and the development of new medicines to treat
these horrific brain diseases.'
'Undermining humanity'
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