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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:29:39
From: drbhudia@... kutchsciencefoundation@...

Subject: Recently published the news of rewriting the history of Kutch and
action to fulfill it







Dear Editorials, friends of Archaeology, science, History and documentation,



Recently published the news of rewriting the history of Kutch. Glad to hear
about the rewriting the history of Kutch. But before we proceed for it, do we
have finished working for the all research work to rewrite the history of Kutch?



Most of our ancient history is partial and partially lost or stolen by the
invaders. E.g. damaged by mogul invasions, and by westerners. Even VALMIK
Ramayana, though story is complete But have only 600+ original Sanskrit shloks
out of 24600. all are not seen in any RAMAYANa.



Many of monuments are lost (KORA SUN TEMPLE near Dolatpar) and damaged Kotay,
Kanthkot, Ramkund (with destruction of RAMKUNG a Rahimkund was made nearby) etc.



Even Mahatma Gandhiji’s personal belongings were made auction. So How much is
left intact with us?



But do we have all these records for reference? Not at all. As taken away by the
rulers at that time before independence. We do not have Following Typed BOOKS
records but some university of USA and London do have and need to be referred
before any write-ups.



Even ancient Language SANSKRIT is slowly disappearing, though new attempts to
keep it alive is in force. But even meaning name of BHUJ. Some just say few
meaning of ARM but is that all? One need to refer a full SANSKRI dictionary from
OXFORD University By Monier Williams. (even our Sanskrit dictionary is from
outsider). Saying to take over care for it and rule it means BHUJ. In other word
a LOOKAFTERed



RAMKUND of BHUJ was existing well before BHUJ re-established in 1605VS/1548AD.
Underground steps outside present RAMKUND is proof hidden in the ground – need
to just make a small research trench by side of RAMKUND without damaging
anything.



Even BHUJ STHAPANA DAY is in dispute as SUD/VAD (Said as SUD but Horoscope shows
Moon in place of VAD) of MAGASAR 1605 VS. Where day is not specified but in
poems of DULERAI Karani is says SUKAR- SUKRA – FRIDAY. And NAJAR as RAVI –
SUNDAY Magsar VAD 1602 VS.



We are well equipped with library with Geology, archaeology, Sanskrit, history,
all science, Maths Engineering and Technology libraries. With Picture database
and audio video collections and hard work of Kutch records of most places
photographed and video recorded in last decade.



LUCKY to have copies in our reference library of History section of KUTCH
SCIENCE FOUNDATION.



1) Sketch of the history of Kutch by James Barnes 1819.

2) Historical description of Hindustan and Kutch by JOHN MURRAY 1820

3) The Documents of agreements of the of Kutch (history) during and before
British

4) CIVIL SERVISES under the Bombay government under British 1878

5) Personal observations of Kutch and Sindh by Mainer Williams 1843

6) History of Hindustan By Wilson wild 1808 (translated from original Persian
source)

7) Rise and Fall in Kutch Bhayats – original from Mc Leod

8)Ancestry records of Kings in Kutch and Saurashtra. And ARYA KINGS by DAYANAND
SARASWATI.

9) Tax revenue records from state of Kutch and its villages.

10) Ancestry records of tribes of Kutch,

Though Kingdom ancestry is well maintained but Very few records are available
for tribes and people of Kutch. Gadhavi’s were well record keepers of ancestry
of the people of Kutch. And so it’s possible and we do have many of 360 years
record and some beyond 7 century. But many are unaware who kept records of
GADHAVI’s and Charan’s itself? But is well kept and intact since last
4centuries. And SOME of Unread/ unseen hand written treasures of Charan Poems.
We kept proofs of Photographic and video. But need to care to preserve those
untold poems of 4centuries ago.



Many just believe history of Kutch is just what it has been written in our books
of History. But that’s the only our belief. What we are reading the history of
books is the only our recent past ONLY.



Thanks to KAVI DULERAY KARANI that he kept his history in his poems and is
preserved as such. And recently RAMSHINHJI created the Bhartiya Sanskriti Darsan
to view part of it.



But we also have archaeological and Vedic history of Kutch as well. And that is
also to be added in our history of Kutch. And as we are aware of DHOLAVIRA,
KURAN AND KANMER, that will be a part of it. But is that all? We have listing of
178 places with Longitude latitude and photographic and video recorded.



Also we have Geological History of KUTCH. How can we ignore that scientific fact
of our Geological History of KUTCH?


Why this is happening? Because we lack the actual research, documenting and
publishing. Most are just doing short cut to get some thing out of it but never
do any thing for that by self. Many come forward and approached to write about
cradle of the Civilisation of Kutch and indo SARASWATI civilisation of India and
over THE WORLD. And few to make documentaries on that but just to make some
wealth and not to work on it.



1) Most of work is in the form of the TABLE WORK/PAPER WORK - Historians write
many books eg Indus civilisations, Ideology etc. but not necessarily they do
visit those places, they write about. its just learning and writing a history by
the Historians.



ACTUAL HITORIAN RESERCHER SHOLD VISIT EACH LOCATION THEY WISH TO WRITE ABOUT IT
SO HISTORIAN CAN ADD SOME THING OF OWN.



2) DOCUMENTING AND PUBLISHING: - MOST OF THE DOCUMENTRY PUBLISHERS DO VISIT THE
PLACE AND DOCUMENT THE PRESENT VIEW OF THE PLACE AND BUT AVOIDING THE
PLAGIARISM,

Plagiarism is the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and
thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original
work.



3) ARCHEOLOGICAL WORK: ARCHEOLOGIST WORK AND PUT LIGHT ON THE FINDINGS BUT THAT
MAY BE LIKE - DHOLAVIARA WAS ACTUALY FOUND OUT BY THE LOCAL GADHVI AND the
ARCHEOLOGIST WERE UNAWARE OF THE FACT AND LATER STRATED TO DIG THE SITE. BUT
ACTAUAL NO FINDING RESEARCH WORK OF THE ARCHEOLOGIST BUT THANKS TO THE LOCAL
GADHAVI WHO STUDIED HISTORY OF INDUS UP TO SIX STANDERD.



4) ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC AND ARCHEOLOGICAL RESERCH WORK OF THE PLACES UNKNOWN TO US.



(SEE THE LIST BELOW) for GUJARAT (HARAPPAN PERIOD) DISTRICT: KUTCH (FULL LISTING
MAY BE AVAILABLE ON EMAIL REQUEST)



Chitrol 23.24N - 70.40E
Desalpur 23.29N - 69.10E
Dholvira (Kotadi) 23.58N - 70.12E
Gadhwaliwadi 23.30N - 69.03E
Gunthai 23.28N - 69.09E
Jatavadar 23.45N - 70.40E
Kanthkot 23.29N - 70.29E
Kerasi 23.40N - 70.44E
Khakhra Dera 23.34N - 70.29E
Khari-Ka-Khanda 23.27N - 70.19E

Khedoi 23.03N - 69.57E
Kotada Bhadli 1 23.22N - 69.26E
Kotada Bhadli 2 23.22N - 69.26E
Kotada 23.17N - 70.06E
Kotadi 23.58N - 70.12E
Kotara-Juni-Karan 24.00N - 69.45E
Lakhapar 23.33N - 70.28E
Lakhpat 23.50N - 68.47E
Morvo 23.50N - 70.42E
Narapa 23.34N - 69.05E
Nenu-Ni-Dhar 23.51N - 69.44E
Pirwada 23.20N - 70.00E
Pabunath 23.38N - 70.31E
Rampara (Vekera No Timbo) 23.30N - 70.45E
Ramvav 23.32N - 70.28E
Samaghoga 22.55N - 69.40E
Selari 22.42N - 70.37E
Surkotada 23.37N - 70.50E
Todio 23.05N - 69.55E
Vada 23.34N - 69.03E

PLACE NAMED WITH “RAI” ARE OLD LAKES ARE CIVILISATION PLACES

MOCHIRAI OF SUKHPAR - 40 HARAPPAN GRAVES ARE FOUND IN BAJARIYUN GAAM AREA
SADHURAI OF GODPAR, JAMORAI BETWEEN GODPAR & MANUKUVA, VICHANDRAI OF MANUKUVA
AND MAGJIRAI OF MADHAPAR.

SAR - MEANS SAROVAR ARE OLD CIVILISATION PLACES IN KUTCH.

BALASAR VAGAD NEAR GADHADA RASAJI
BHARASAR - HARAPPAN DAM AREA,
VADASAR - TARO -TALAV AREA OF THE VILLAGE
SUMARASAR - NENUNI DHAR CIVILISATION
DEVISAR - HAS MORE THAN ONE AREA OF
CIVILISATION AREA DEVISAR AND JATAWADA
BHADRESAR - BHADRESWAR
KHIRASARA , DAHISARA , MODSAR, BALASAR Anandsar Vasdasar, Bharasar, Sumarasar
(Nenu ni Dhar civilisation ),

MORO - MORA MEANS TAKARO - TIMBO

SARLI TIMBO - JIWA TIMBO ARE
VEKARA TIMBO OF VAGAD
VEKRA RAMPAR OF BHUJ
MOMAY MORA etc

GADH AND GADHADA OF KUTCH

GADHADA OF KHADIR NEAR RATANPAR
GADHADA RASOJI NEAR BALASAR IN VAGAD
GADHSHISHA
DEVPARGADH
RAPAR GADH
GADHWARI WADI - MEGHPAR IN BHUJ
GADHWARIWADI - KHIRSARA NETRA NAKHATRANA
PANDYANO GADH etc
GADHADA OF BHAVNAGAR ON RIVER BANKS OF GHELO RIVER.

KOT - KOTADA - KOTDI OF KUTCH

KANTH KOT
KOTADA CHAKAR REHA - UGAMANA AND ATHAMANA KOTADA - GADHADO AREA HAS GADH IN
GROUNDS
KOTADA BHADLI THARAVADA IN NAKHTRANA
Kotada (Roha) has OLD KOTDA near village Kotada and Khirasara
KOTADA THARAVADA IN ANJAR
KOTADA IN ZURA
KOTADA JADODAR
KOTADA - KOTADI OF DHOLAVIRA
KOTAY - KOTESHWAR
KATESHWAR - LAKHAPAT
KOTESHWAR - NARAYAN SAROVAR
ALSO KOTADA CHANDRANI

If above picture is not seen here file SIYOT WAAV Concrete Layered6July07.JPG
is attached for you with this email

We have very rich archaeological history and monuments. but now may be we will
be loosing one by one if not cared for its existence. Recently our visits to the
oldest VAAVs we seen most are at the stage of loosing their reality.



MOD KUVA of KANTH KOT is one of the Oldest well but many have not seen as
difficult approach but is wonderful with carvings but in poor conditions.

BHADRESHWAR Vaav is no longer approachable as is filled with wild vegetations
and in such a dangerous stage to collapse that one should not try to force
entry. though we made some good snaps of those.

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=22.913923&lon=69.905789&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2&show=/323\
8653/Bhadreshwar-OLD-VAAV&search=bhadreshwar


http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=899\
524&t=k&om=1


http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=22.9242472&lon=69.8697853&z=13&l=0&m=a&v=2&show=/3\
238653/Bhadreshwar-OLD-VAAV


Chobari vaav is to be believed was built by PANDAVAS while establishing village
CHOBARI During Guptavaas. Pandava established the village with Shiva temple and
CHAU BARI VAAV, GEDI village as said in MAHABHARATA is close by.

PADIYAS of KUTCH need special attention as many are in remote areas eg Kotada
near ROHA, Vekara, etc. ALL TALUKA and villages should keep records of all
padiyas of each village of TALUKAS od KUTCH.

Recent development in CHOBARI has damaged most of ancient views and covered with
CEMENTING layers and Padiyas are still intact but need to keep intact.

Bhanjano DUNDAR - HILLS is believed to be home of HEDAMBA where BHIMA married to
her during the GUPTA VAAS period and also a place called BHIM GUDA a place where
Bhima Swigged the hedamba. We have full Picture library and Video footage of all
places.

Now this Place of Chobari VAAV is plastered with cement and original look of
before 5000 years is no longer visible to us. Original view of that CHOBARI VAAV
of 50 years back (CHOBARI OLD VAAV.JPG) is attaché to this email.

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php?Number=848489
http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=23.51158&lon=70.336791&z=13&l=0&m=a&v=2&show=/8002\
025/Village-Chobari-Chaubari-Kabir-Nagar-Area&search=chobari

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=23.5814515&lon=70.3421974&z=13&l=0&m=a&v=2&show=/7\
997532/Chobari-Village&search=chobari


Presently this Place of KATESHWAR VAAV is overlayed by CONCRETE cement layer
for repair, It could be repaired with old technique of Calcium CHOKA (CHOONA)
BUT original look is loosing its ORIGINALITY.
Original view of that KATESHWAR VAAV (KATESHWAR VAAV.jpg) is attaché to this
email also LASt view of KateshwarVaav.jpg as it was repaired with Cement
concrete on 6July2007.

Ancient Kateshwar vaav @ kateshwar in hills of ZARA
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php?Number=644939
Kateshwar OLD Vaav New Image Overlay
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=841\
289&t=k&om=1

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=23.773792&lon=68.877542&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2&show=/323\
5613/Old-Vaav&search=kateshwar






Bhadreshwar OLD VAAV.jpg KateshwarVaav.jpg CHOBARI
OLD VAAV.JPG


By Dr.BHUDIA-Science Group Of INDIA.
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