EPISODE 9 (27/12/2007)
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AD: Ravindra-ji, aaj ke is 'episode' mein aapka bahut bahut swaagat
hai Vividh Bharati ke 'studio' mein, namaskaar!

RJ: namashkaar!

AD: daadu, pichhle 'episode' mein Raj Kapoor saahab ka zikr aaya,
kaafi baaten huyi, aur jaise log bhi unke baare mein bahut si baaten
jaante hain, yeh bhi jaante hain ki Raj Kapoor ke saath jo jo juDe
rahe, jo bhi kalaakaar juDe rahe, phir woh sangeetkaar hon, geetkaar
hon, jo bhi unke saath juDaa raha unka woh bahut hi 'personal level'
par Khayaal rakha karte the, aur jaise aapne bataaya ki aapke saath
bhi unke aatmeeya sambandh rahe. aapke liye bhi woh kaafi dil se
duyaa karte the, aapke liye, aapki kaamyaabi ke liye, to us baare
mein aap kya kehna chaahenge?

RJ: unko jo pasand aa gaya na, yaa unke 'mental level' pe jo 'fit'
baiTh gaya na, unko lagtaa tha ki 'mera kaam honewaala hai'. uskaa
baDaa 'personal care' karte the aur har tarah Khush rakhte the
aur 'he knew how take out the work', aur kaise 'deal' karna hai
apne 'composer' se, apne naye 'artistes' se, kis tarah 'best of their
capability' kaam karaana hai, woh bahut achchhi tarah jaante the.

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Song: sun saahiba sun (Ram Teri Ganga Maili)
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AD: Ram Teri Ganga Maili aapko kis tarah se mili, jaisa aapne kahaa
ki kai baar aapne Raj saahab se zikr kiya to Raj saahab ne kahaa
ki 'naheen, mujhe jis din zaroorat hogi main Khud gunijan ke ghar
pahunch jaayunga'.

RJ: ek baar, hamaare 'common friend' the T P Jhunjhunwala saahab.
woh 'Income Tax Commissioner' the, Mumbai mein bhi the,
lekin 'basically' Delhi rehte the. to wahaan unke biTiyaa ki shaadi
thi. to jaise shaadiyon mein sangeet ki mehfil hoti hai, main bhi
gayaa tha, main, Hemlata, Divya, T P bhaaisaahab, ham sab log wahaan
pe the. T P saahab ne zikr kiya ki 'daadu, Raj saahab ko gaana
sunaao'. yeh geet maine Jeevan film ke liye likha tha Rajashree
waalon ke liye. do aise geet hain jo doosri film mein aa gaye, usmein
se ek hai Akhiyon Ke Jharonkhon Se ka jo 'title song' hai, Sippy
saahab ke liye likhaa tha jo Ghar film banaa rahe the, lekin woh
kuchh aisi baat ho gayi ki unke 'director' ko pasand naheen aaya,
unko gaana ThanDaa lagaa. to maine Raj baabu ko sunaa diya to unhone
yeh 'title' rakh liya. phir Sippy saahab ne wohi gaana maanga mujhse,
maine kahaa ki 'ab to maine gaana de diya kisi ko', baad mein zaraa
woh naakhush bhi ho gaye the. to yeh gaana Jeevan film ke liye,
Prashant Nanda-ji 'direct' karnewaale the, Rajashree waalon ki film
thi, uske liye "ek raadha ek meera" likha tha maine. to Raj saahab
wahaan baiThe the. to yeh gaana jab sunaaya to Raj saahab ne Divya se
poochha ki 'yeh geet kisiko diya to naheen?' to maine kahaa
ki 'naheen, diya to naheen!' Raj saahab teen din the aur teeno din
woh mujhse yeh gaana sunte rahe. aur T P bhaaisaahab se sawaa rupaya
liya aur mujhe dekar kahaa ki 'aaj se yeh gaana mera ho gaya, mujhe
de do'. ab Raj saahab ko yeh kaun poochhe ki iska kya karenge, na koi
kahaani hai na koi baat. to waheen unhone yeh geet tay kar liya, phir
mujhe Bombay bulaaya, kuchh gaane sune. 'and he gave me a token of Rs
5000' ki tum aaj se RK ke 'music director' ho gaye, tab bhi yeh
naheen tha ki kaun sa film banaana hai, kya hai. phir unki janamdin
par ham Poona gaye. Khoob 'party varty' raat ko huyi, khaana vaana,
unkaa sabkuchh baDe paimaane pe hota tha. 'next afternoon' mein ham
log chaai pee rahe the, to Raj saahab ne kahaa ki 'daadu, mere dimaag
mein chhoTa sa ek 'story idea' hai, aur maine ek film banaaee hai Jis
Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai, ab main naam rakhna chaahta hoon Ram Teri
Ganga Maili, ab mujhe kaise log maaf karenge?' to maine kahaa
ki 'aapko koi kuchh naheen kahegaa, mujhe bas ek 'second' deejiye'.
usi waqt jo hai na maine unko yeh mukhDaa diya, (sings) "gangaa
hamaari kahe baat yeh rote rote, raam teri gangaa maili ho gayi
paapiyon ke paap dhote dhote".

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Song: ek dukhiyaari kahe baat yeh rote rote (Ram Teri Ganga Maili)
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RJ: itne Khush huye, 'he was so thrilled'. phir uske antare Bombay
aakar likhe baad mein. aur woh gaana jo maine aapko bataaya pehle,
jiske liye hamein yeh Ram Teri Ganga Maili film mili, woh gaaana
tha "ek raadha ek meera dono ne shyaam ko chaaha, antar kya dono ki
chaah mein bolo, ek prem deewaani ek daras deewaani", 'love triangle'
pe banaaya tha.

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Song: ek raadha ek meera (Ram Teri Ganga Maili)
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RJ: phir unka woh 'dream project' tha Henna, woh mere hi hisse mein
aaya.

AD: haalaanki woh isko poora naheen kar paaye the.

RJ: 'dream' to saahab, 'dream' kahaan poore hote hain?

AD: jo poora ho jaaye woh sapnaa kaisi!

RJ: sapne to phir haqeeqat ho jaayenge!

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Song: der na ho jaaye kahin (Henna)
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RJ: Henna ke saath bhi baDaa mazedaar kissa huya. woh kissa aap ko
bayaan karne se pehle main Sagar saahab ko praNaam karta hoon, kal
tak hamaare saath the, Ramayan jo hamaara mahaakaavya, jisko unhone
ghar ghar pahunchaaya, apne naam ke anuroop, raam ka aanand aur uskaa
saagar, aanand ka saagar, hai na, bahaanewaale, ghar ghar pahunchaane
waale Ramanand Sagar, unkaa yeh 'serial' kar raha tha main Ramayan,
to unka ek gaana 'record' karke usi din phir maine woh gaana sunaaya
Raj saahab ko. aur woh gaana tha, 'situation' bahut ajeeb thi,
Kaikeyee aur Bharat ke beech mein tha, Bharat ne kabhi maa bulaaya
naheen unko, to unki aapas mein baatchit ho rahi thi kahin, ek fakeer
ko hamne yeh gaana diya, 'background' se gaa raha tha, gaane ka pehle
mukhDaa sunaata hoon, phir woh kissa sunaata hoon, (sings) "o mayya
taine kaa Thaani man mein, raam siya bhej deri ban mein". aisaa maine
sunaaya Raj saahab ko aur kahaa ki 'aaj maine yeh gaana 'record'
karke aaya'. to unhone kahaa ki 'dekh dekh dekh, tune yeh gaana
sunaaya na, mere rongTe khaDe ho gaye, dekh dekh dekh'. yeh to mujhe
baDaa achchha lagaa lekin 'next moment' unhone kya kahaa ki 'tu ab
Henna naheen kar saktaa' (laughs). maine kahaa ki 'mar gaye, yeh kya
ho gaya!' maine socha ki kya karen. phir main chalaa aaya wahaan se.
mere baDaa man mein tha ki yeh itna baDaa 'project' mere haath se
chalaa jaayega! to ek din mujhe inka 'phone' aaya, jo Raj saahab ke
yahaan 'production' dekhte the, unhone kahaa ki 'Raj saahab ne kahaa
hai ki unke saath Srinagar chalna hai'. to phir tablewaala mera,
Divya, main, gaye. kuchh naheen saahab, koi zikr naheen film ka,
chalo aaj yahaan shikhaare mein ghoomo, yahaan khaana khaao, chalo
yeh karo woh karo, yeh sab karte rahe. to baad mein mujhe pataa
chalaa ki yeh saara kaam isliye kiya gaya ki Ramayan mere dimaag se
nikaal de aur Henna Daal de. iske liye inhone itni koshish kee, mujhe
Kashmir le gaye, logon se milaaya, 'cast' ke jo log the, banjaare,
unko bulaaya, to yeh sab prayatna tha woh Henna ke liye the.

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Song: main hoon Khushrang heenaa (Henna)
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RJ: unhi ka 'working' bataa raha hoon kis tarah kaam lenaa jaante the
logon se!

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Song: anaar daana anaar daana (Henna)
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RJ: hameshaa jab main Ram Teri Ganga Maili ka 'title' gaata hoon,
unke liye chaar panktiyaan paDhtaa hoon woh main aapko sunaa deta
hoon, "raaj ne raaj barson dilon par kiya, apne andaaz se zindagi ko
jeeyaa, de gaya jaate jaate nishaani yahi, usne gangaa ko maili na
hone diyaa"

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Song: gangaa hamaari kahe baat yeh rote rote (Ram Teri Ganga Maili)
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END OF EPISODE 9