VIVIDH BHARATI GOLDEN JUBILEE CELEBRATIONS
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BASED ON A TELEPHONIC INTERVIEW OF LATA MANGESHKAR
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LM: Lata Mangeshkar
DK: Dilip Kumar
MS: Mamta Singh

MS: namaste doston, main hoon aapki 'radio' sakhi Mamta Singh.
doston, aaj hai Vividh Bharati ki Golden Jubilee, aur is Khushi ke
mauke par aaj hamaare saath 'telephone line' par maujood hain ek sur
sakhi.

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Clip: aalaap of "ab to hai tumse har Khushi apni"
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MS: doston, kehte hain ki aawaaz ka koi mazhab naheen hota, yeh kisi
sarhad yaa deewaar ko naheen maantee, isliye to Vividh Bharati ki
aawaaz mulkon aur sarhadon ke paar jaane kahaan kahaan goonjti hai.
jis sur sakhi se main aapki mulaaqaat karwa rahi hoon, unki aawaaz
bhi pichhle kai baras se duniya ke har kone mein goonj rahi hai, yeh
woh aawaaz hai jinke liye adaakaar-e-aazam Dilip Kumar ne kahaa tha:

DK: hazaraat, jis tarah se phool ki Khushboo yaa mahak ka koi rang
naheen hota, woh mahaz Khushboo hoti hai, jis tarah se bahete huye
paani ke jharne yaa ThaDi hawaayon ka koi maskan ya koi ghar, watan
yaa desh naheen hota, jis tarah ke ubharti huyi suraj ke kirNon ka
yaa kisi muskuraate huye bachche ki muskaan ka koi mazhab yaa
bhedbhaav naheen hota, waise hi Lata Mangeshkar ki aawaaz kudrat ki
taKhleek ka ek karishma hai.

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Clip: Prelude humming of "yeh dil aur unki nigaahon ke saaye"
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MS: yakeen naheen ho raha hai na, lekin yeh sapna naheen sach hai,
darasal meri dil ki dhaDkane bhi bahut baDhee huyi hain, Vividh
Bharati ki swarNajayanti par is waqt hamaare saath 'telephone line'
par maujood hain aawaaz ki devi, sur saamraagyee, swar kokeelaa,
Lata Mangeshkar.

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Clip: teri raahon mein khaDe hain dil thaam ke
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LM: 'hello'

MS: namaskaar Lata didi, main Vividh Bharati se Mamta Singh bol rahi
hoon

LM: namaskaar jee

MS: pehle to main (laughs nervously) apni Khushi ko sambhaal loon
(Lata laughs), ki mujhe jo Khushi ho rahi hai aap se baat karte
huye. Vividh Bharati ke 50 baras poore huye hain. to swarNa jayanti
par kis tarah se aap badhaai dengi Vividh Bharati ko?

LM: bahut baDi baat hai, 50 baras poore ho rahe hain, meri taraf se
bahut bahut badhaai, bahut bahut shubhkaamnaayen, aur bhi Vividh
Bharati ka naam ho, main yahi chaahti hoon, kyunki mujhe yaad hai Pt
Narendra Sharma-ji ne iska naam Vividh Bharati diya tha

MS: jee jee

LM: kaafi varsh ho gaye, main unhe bahut achchhi tarah se jaanti
thi, aur unhone hi mujhe bataaya tha ki Vividh Bharati unhone shuru
kiya hai aur jab woh the wahaan par to main aayi thi do teen baar,
aur Vividh Bharati ke liye maine kuchh kaaryakram bhi keeye the, to
Vividh Bharati hamaare jeevan ke saath juDee huyi hai.

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Clip: satyam shivam sundaram
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LM: waise AkashvaaNi ka janam jo huya hai, woh mere janam se pehle
huya hai, to Akashvaani, agar VaaNi hai to meri baDi bahan hai
(laughs), main jab bachchi thi, hamaare liye bahut baDi baat hoti
thi ki 'radio' sunaa jaaye, aur 'radio' par ham alag alag gaayak
gaayikaaon ke gaane suna karte the. jab main Bambai aayi hoon pehle,
1945 mein, 1947 mein main Vinayak-ji ke yahaan kaam karti thi, to
jab thoDe se paise mile to main faTaafaT baazaar jaakar ek 'radio'
Khareed laayi. bahut saari gaayak gaayikaaon ko ham sunte rahe hain.
filmon ke gaane ham bahut kam sunte the, par jab mere gaane bajne
lage, to mere ghar mein meri maa, bahan, bhaai, sab kehte the 'dekho
Lata, tumhaara gaana baj raha hai, Marathi gaana aa raha hai,
tumhaari film aayi hai "aayega aanewaala" aa raha hai', phir Barsat
ke gaane aa rahe hain. phir main 'radio' kam sunne lagi kyunki main
mere gaane kahaan sunti, phir kaam bhi baDh gaya tha, to Vividh
Bharati ka hamaare jeevan ke saath ek bahut hi sundar sambandh hai,
jo aaj tak hai. aaj bhi main subah jaldi uThke sunti hoon, kai
martabaa baDe achchhe bhajan sunne mein aate hain.

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Clip: Thumak chalat Raamchandra
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MS: to hamne sunaa hai ki shuruwaat mein aap ne Vividh Bharati mein
kuchh farmaaishi patra bhi bheje the, kya yeh sach hai?

LM: haan, usko to bahut saal ho gaye (laughs), main 1947-48, tab
shaayad Vividh Bharati naam naheen tha, ham log 'radio' ke
farmaaishi 'programme'-on mein patra baiThke likhte the, baDaa
achchha lagta tha aur gaane sunte the, aur 'wait' kart thi main ki
mera naam kab aayega (laughs)

MS: (laughs) 'oh my God' (laughs). achchha Lata didi, pichhle 50
varshon mein Vividh Bharati ne aapke geeton ko aam janata tak
pahunchaaya hai, aur aam jantaa ka pyaar aap tak pahuncha hai, aur
aap kai baar muKhaatib bhi huyi hain janata se. to aapko kaisa lagta
hai itna pyaar paakar didi?

LM: mujhe bahut Khushi hoti hai, ab mujhe is baat ki Khushi zyaada
hoti hai ki log mujhe itna pyaar karte hain, aur log mujhe itna
aashirvaad dete hain, yeh mere liye bahut baDi baat hai aur main
samajhti hoon ki mera naam jo hai woh janata ki pyaar ki wajah se hi
hai. woh hamesha mere saath rahen, unka aashirvaad sadaa mere saath
rahen to kise Khushi naheen hogi, mujhe bahut Khushi hai is baat ki.

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Clip: main keval tumhaare liye gaa rahi hoon
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MS: bahut achchha lag raha hai didi aapki baaten sunkar, aap iotni
achchhi udgaar vyakt kar rahi hain (Lata laughs). didi, 1957 mein
shuruwaat huyi thi Vividh Bharati ki. tab se lekar aaj tak sangeet
ke kai daur guzre hain, aap ki nazron mein sabse sunehra daur kaun
sa raha hai?

LM: sureela daur hamaare hisaab se 60s aur 70s raha hai. bas 80 tak.
jitne gaane hamne gaaye hain aur jitna kaam hamne kiya hai, woh aaj
bhi matlab main yaad karti hoon to mujhe Khushi hoti hai ki aisa bhi
kaam huya karta tha aur ham log, haalaanki bhaagdauD bahut hoti thi,
lekin kaam jo achchha hota tha woh to man ko shaanti to milti hai na!

MS: jee. aur haalaanki aap to naye daur ke sangeetkaaron ke saath
bhi 'recording' karti rahi hain, to aap ko kis tarah ke ahsaasaat
hote hain, apne puraane daur ko yaad karti hain to kya lagta hai
aapko?

LM: puraana jo kaam tha, usse aaj ke kaam mein bahut fark hai yeh to
main maanti hoon par badlaav to aate hi rehte hain na, badlaav to
prithvi ka niyam hai, to 'music' bahut 'chnage' huya hai, logon ka
rahan sahan, bachchon ki aadaten bahut alag ho gayi hain, to woh to
hai, lekin hamne jo kaam kiya hai us par hamein ek tarah se naaz hai.

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Clip: chhupaakar meri aankhon ko woh poochhe
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MS: Lata didi, yeh bataaiye ki Vividh Bharati ka janamdin aur aapka
janamdin lagbhag aaspaas hai, 28 September ko aapka janamdin aur 3
October ko Vividh Bharati ka janamdin hai. to aap bataaiye ki
vyaktigat roop se aap apna janamdin kaise manaati hain?

LM: (laughs)

MS: (laughs) mujhe pataa hai didi aap is baat ko Taalengi, main
bahut himmat karke poochh rahi hoon is baat ko (laughs)

LM: (laughs) main apna 'birthday' naheen manaati hoon to aapko
bataayun boliye

MS: arey

LM: main apna 'birthday' naheen manaati hoon, matlab, mujhe shauk
naheen hai

MS: lekin aapko Khabar to milti hogi ki log aapke liye kitni duyaaen
karte hain

LM: haan, yeh to mujhe milta hai, aur aajkal CDs milte hain to log
CDs banaa banaakar bhejte hain ki hamne 'radio' par aapke liye
yeh 'programme' kiya tha

MS: jee jee

LM: to main sabki bahut aabhaari hoon, bahut bahut hi zyaada, ki
main unki hreeNee hoon ki woh mere liye sochte hain itna zyaada.

MS: didi, haal hi mein aap ne kuchh bhajan gaaye hain, zaraa unke
baare mein bhi bataayengi?

LM: bhajan, maine Ganesh Mantra gaaye hain, abhi usak 'record' aaya
hai Sarvamangal Ganesh karke, aur usmein Sanskrit shlok hain, apne
yahaan jo Ganesh Gaayitri hoti hai, woh hai, aur Laxmi Ganesh ka bhi
hai, bas alag alag tarah ka kiya hai, aur maine suna hai ki woh baht
achcha chal raha hai. isse pehle maine bhajan keeye hain, Meera
Bahajn mere bahut 'popular' hain, par is tarah ka maine kiya naheen
tha. doosra mera ek aur 'record' aaya hai Sumiran karke, jismein
shlok hain alag alag. matlab Sanskrit ka hai, to suna hai woh bhi
achchha jaa raha hai. yeh mere liye bahut Khushi ki baat hai.

MS: jee. aur taazaa tareen Ghazlon ka ek 'album' bhi aaya hai na!

LM: jee haan, Ghazlon ka 'album' aaya hai aur woh 'top' par jaa raha
hai, main sunti rehti hoon, mujhe itna maaloom naheen hai, par maine
suna hai ki woh bhi bahut achchha jaa raha hai.

MS: aur woh bhajanon mein se thoda bahut agar aapko abhi yaad aa
raha ho to...

LM: naa, main abhi to sunaa naheen sakoongi.

MS: (laughs)

LM: main aapko zaroor sunaati, lekin is waqt mujhe yaad bhi naheen
aa rahe hain aur.... amin is wqat aapko sunaa naheen paayungi.

MS: koi baat naheen!

LM: mera Meera Bhajan koi bajaa deejiye jo 'non-filmi' ho.

MS: jee achchha

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Clip: mhaara re giridhar gopaal doosra na koNyaa
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MS: Theek hai didi, ek baat bataaiye, 'radio' ki baat chal rahi hai,
to aap 'cricket' ki baDi shaukeen rahi hain, to bataaiye ki 'radio'
par 'cricket commentary' sunti rahi hain?

LM: 'radio' par jab tab tak TV naheen aaya tha, tab tak sunti thi,
aur aaj bhi agar aisa hota hai ki main kahin baahar jaa rahi hoon,
jahaan matlab TV naheen dekh sakti hoon, wahaan main 'radio' sunti
hoon, yaa 'recording' chal rahi ho to beech beech mein kisi se
poochti hoon ki zaraa 'radio' par pataa karke bataayo ki kaun kya
khel raha hai.

MS: achchha, aur kabhi 'radio' par apne gaaye huye gaane sune hain
aapne, Vividh Bharati par Khaas taur se?

LM: haan, kai baar sune hain, kai baar sune hain, aur mera Khayaal
hai Vividh Bharati par sainikon ke liye bhi ek 'programme' aata hai

MS: jee, Jaimala

LM: Jaimala, maine woh bhi suna hai

MS: jee, aur ham to yahi kahenge ki Vividh Bharati par koi bhi
aisa 'programme' naheen hai, koi bhi aisa din naheen hai jismein
lata didi ki aawaaz na shaamil hoti ho

LM: aap logon ki kripaa hai

MS: is waqt Vividh Bharati ke karoDon shrotaa aap se muKhaatib hain,
Vividh Bharati ki Golden Jubilee par aapka gaaya huya kaun sa Golden
geet shtrotaaon ki nazr karen aapki or se?

LM: yeh to baDaa mushkil hai (both laughs), aap hi koi gaana pasand
karke bajaa deejiye

MS: (laughs) mere pasand to, meri to itni lambi fehrist hai ki (Lata
laughs)

LM: aap bajaa deejiye apni pasand ka koi geet (laughs)

MS: didi agar yaad aa raha ho to, koi bhi ek 'line' gungunaa den to
mujhe bahut...

LM: naheen main gungunaa to naheen sakoongi

MS: koi baat naheen

LM: aur gaana mujhe, main sach sach bataayun, is waqt koi yaad
naheen aa rahi hai

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Song: phaili huyi hai sapnon ki baahen
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MS: didi, ek baat aur jaanna chaahte hain, kisi Khaas gaane
ke 'recording' se juDaa huya koi yaadgaar lamhaa jo is waqt aap ko
yaad aa jaaye?

LM: aise to bahut saare kisse hain ki hamne kab kaise gaane 'record'
keeye hain, woh bhi puraane zamaane ki baaten. ek mujhe yaad aati
hai ki Raj Kapoor ka ek gaana tha mera aur Manna Dey saahab ka,
Awara ka tha yaa Shree 420 ka, mujhe yaad naheen aa raha hai, "tere
binaa, ghar aaya mera pardesi"

MS: jee jee, Awara

LM: Awara ka tha

MS: jee jee

LM: to woh gaana hamne subah 9 baje shuru kiya, aur doosre din subah
ke 3 baje khatam kiya

MS: achchha!

LM: matlab, saara din woh gaana ham log 'record' karte rahe

MS arey baap re

LM: aur Raj Kapoor saahab wahaan aaye aur itne cheezon
mein 'changes' keeye, 'yeh 'music' naheen chaahiye, yeh badal do',
to woh phir baiThke 'music' badalte the, phir yeh naheen chaahiye
woh chaahiye, yeh achchha hai abhi isko bajaayo, to 'live' hota tha
saara, 'musicians' bhi saath hote the, ham log bhi hote the, to ham
log baiThe rahe, gaate rahe gaate rahe gaate rahe, aise karte karte
3 baj gaye, 3 baje jaake woh gaana khatam huya, aur 3 baje mere
Khayaal se unke ghar se kuchh 'sandwich' vagerah aaye, to ham log
sab baahar baiThke aur raat ke 3 baje ham logon ne khaaya, aur phir
ham log ghar gaye. to yeh kissa mujhe yaad aata hai.

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Song: ghar aaya mera pardesi
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MS: aur us samay to aap bahut mashoor gaayika ban chuki theen, bahut
naam haasil kar chuki theen, to itna 'time' kheench raha tha, to
aapko koi dikkat...

LM: naheen koi dikkat to naheen hoti thi, matlab, kaam hota tha to
usi tarah hota tha kyunki har cheez 'live' hoti thi, aaj ki tarah
naheen thi ki bhai 'music record' kar liya, phir jaake gaa diya, to
samay to nikaalna hi paDta tha, ek kaam shuru huya to karna hi paDta
tha, Raj saahab ke jitne gaane hote the unmein der hi lagti thi,
jaldi koi hota naheen tha.

MS: aur shaayad waqt zyaada lagta tha, mehnat aur lagan zyaada hoti
thi, isliye gaane bhi utne umda hote the

LM: jee haan

MS: aur aapki gaayiki ki to koi baat hi naheen hai. achchha didi,
mere man mein vyaktigat roop se ek baat aayi hai, 'please'
bataayenge, aapke gale mein aaj bhi baDi miThaas hai, bahut
sureelapan hai, aapki hansi mein wohi khanak hai, bataaiye apni
aawaaz ko taazaa tareen banaaye rakhne ke liye kya karti hain?

LM: yeh to mere upar eeshwar ki kripa hai, main kuchh naheen karti
hoon, bas usne abhi tak meri laaj rakhi hai, aur woh aaKhri dam tak
rakhe main bas yahi praarthana kar sakti hoon.

MS: parhez naheen karteen?

LM: gale ke liye maine kabhi koi parhez naheen kiya, kyunki mere
pitaaji ne kaha tha ki 'gale ke liye yeh naheen khaana woh naheen
khaana, aisa naheen hota hai', mujhe parhez to maaloom hi naheen
tha, abhi parhez aur cheezon ki vajah se karna paDta hai, ki yeh
cheez khaane se peT ki takleef hogi, 'acidity' hogi, falaana hogaa,
isiliye main khaati naheen hoon, gale ke liye maine parhez kabhi
kiya naheen.

MS: to aap golgappe, chaaT chaTpaTe vagerah khaane mein... (laughs)

LM: main sab khaati hoon, takleef hoti hai to, Mumbai ka 'climate'
hi aisa hai ki 90% logon ko 'acidity' hoti hai, mujhe bhi hoti hai,
isi wajah se sambhalke sambhalke, baaki achaar vagerah sab khaa leti
hoon.

MS: achchha (laughs), chaliye ab ham log bhi shuru karenge (both
laughs) ham ab bhi kahenge ki Lata didi khaa sakti hain to ham bhi
khaa sakte hain (both laughs)

MS: achchha didi yeh bataaiye ki aap ab bhi riyaaz karti hain,
kyunki abhi haal mein jo gaane 'record' huye hain, aisa lagta hai ki
aapke riyaaz mein koi kamee naheen hai.

LM: riyaaz ka to sambandh hai gaane ke saath

MS: mere kehne ka matlab tha ki aap pehle to ghanTon riyaaz karti
hongi, kya ab bhi aap riyaaz karti hain?

LM: main ghar pe gaana sunti to hoon, sunke main 'decide' karti hoon
ki yeh gaana gaana hai ke naheen. abhi itne saal ho
gaye, 'rehearsal' karna to ham bhool hi gaye, pehle kya hota tha ki
15-15 din 'rehearsal' hota tha, aur phir gaana 'record' karte the,
phir ek aisa daur aaya ki ham log 'set' par jaate the, waheen gaana
sunte the, waheen yaad karte the aur waheen 'record' ho jaata tha.
aisa bhi huya, woh chaalu raha, aur ab to aisa huya hai ki 'music'
pehle 'record' ho jaata hai, baad mein ham aaraam se gaate hain.

MS: achchha kya aapko yaad hai ki kitni bhaashaaon mein aap ne gaane
gaaye hain?

LM: maine 36 bhaashaaon mein gaaye hain

MS: jee didi, hamaare paas aapke gaaye kai bhaashaaon ke geet hain,
jaise yeh raha Marathi geet.

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Clip: mi raat Taaklee
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MS: aur yeh raha Bangla geet...

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Clip: naa mono laage naa e jeebone kichhu jeno bhaalo laage na
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MS: didi, aapka gaaya huya Gujarati geet ho jaaye?

LM: haan haan, bajaa deejiye

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Clip: roop le marhi chhe saari raat re sajan
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MS: aur yeh Punjabi geet...

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Clip: Doli chaDhdiya maariya heer chi paaon
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MS: didi ham aapke liye shubhkaamnaayen kar rahe hain ki aap aage
bhi har bhaashaa mein isi tarah se gaati rahen, asankhya saalon tak
aapka saath banaa rahe, aap ka aashirvaad banaa rahe is dharti ke
liye

LM: bahut bahut dhanyavaad

MS: chalte chalte did kya kahengi aap shrotaaon ke liye?

LM: bahut baDi baat hai, 50 varsh poore ho rahe hain, meri taraf se
bahut bahut badhaai, bahut bahut shubhkaamnaayen, aur bhi bahut
Vividh Bharati ka naam ho, shrtaaon se yahi kaqhoongi ki unka pyaar
aur aashirvaad mujhe isi tarah milta rahe, aur main yahi chaahti
hoon ki jab tak main rahoon tab tak mera naam Theek rahe, bas! aur
yeh sirf 'public' ke aashirvaad se hi hota hai, aisa main maanti
hoon. bhagwaan ka daya to hai mere upar, maa baap ka aashirvaad bhi
hai, par janataa jo sunti hai, woh bhi bahut maaeene rakhti hai,
aisa mera Khayaal hai.

MS: aur main didi, aap se bas itna hi kahoongi ki main aaj apne aap
ko bahut Khushnaseeb maan rahi hoon ki aaj meri aap se 'telephone'
par baat ho gayi, shukriya Lata didi, kis tarah se aap ka shukriya
adaa karoon samajh mein naheen aa raha hai, namaste didi.

LM: namaste

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Clip: aalaap of "dil deewaana bin sajnaa ke maane na"
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MS: doston, jis tarah se Lata didi ne har bhaashaa ke logon, har
praant ke logon ko apni aawaaz se ek sur mein baandhaa hai, usi
tarah Vividh Bharati ne har praant ko ek sutra mein piroya hai.
jahaan Lata Mangeshkar aapke jeevan ka sur hai, Vividh Bharati aap
ka jeevan sangeet hai.

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Clip: aalaap of "nindiya se jaagi bahaar"
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MS: Lata Mangeshkar aur Vividh Bharati desh ki sureelee dhaDkan hai,
Vividh Bharati ki swarNa jayanti par aapki 'radio' sakhi ne baat kee
swar kokeela Lata Mangeshkar se. ek baar phir dohra doon, Lata-ji ki
sur aur Vividh Bharati ki aawaaz, dono hi aap ka jeevan sangeet hai!

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